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@Diana
“Thanks for kicking off the reply! I think it would totally make sense that if one person in a relationship is confident or unbothered and the other is ashamed that one might use that against them! Typically though I would think men on a whole are more unashamed compared to their female partners, but thank you for your candor! Id love to talk to you more about enf/ENM in dms!”
Sounds good I would love to chat with you about this in private if you prefer as I definitely have thought excessively about the seeing as it’s pretty much the basis of most of the fictional stories I have written which tend to focus on the embarrassment aspect and the characters being shy about being naked as that’s more interesting to me than the confident naked characters.
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I think I relate more to an embarrassed character and that is why most of my fictional naked stories tend to focus on the embarrassment and humiliation factor because again as a person who is very shy myself it’s more relatable to me.
In a relationship with another person though I think it would actually be a screamingly hilarious thing if I was around a woman who was really think that being naked while I am very shy about it because then she would always sort of have that over me. I kind of get both turned on and intimidated at the same time by a woman who is boldly unbothered by her own nudity like that.
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“I should do a poll to measure opinions on whether someone wearing shoes counts are NOT naked.”
I would probably be a good idea as they are numerous pictures here of people who are basically naked but otherwise wearing shoes or sandals because even if you’re going outdoors naked recreationally you don’t want to be going around barefoot because you could step on something and hurt yourself.
My general rule of thumb is if you can see all of the interesting stuff, the private areas and you are wearing nothing on your body you are basically naked. To me a person wearing shoes is technically naked as far as I am concerned. I actually think it’s rather attractive when a person is completely naked but maybe wearing shoes or gloves or a hat or something like that because somehow it seems like they are a little bit less naked but I would still technically say that they are naked but seem like there a little bit more dressed than somebody who is not wearing shoes, gloves or a hat, which again seems like a real nitpicky kind of thing but that’s kind of my attitude towards it. I consider clothing more along things you drape over your body where shoes are more like an accessory.
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“I don’t think forced positivity on social media helps foster a positive environment. Personally, I find it depressing and dystopian.
It’s like when employers require their employees to smile all the time. It just looks fake and annoying.”
You know it actually reminds me I forgot about this story I wrote it actually was a dystopia based on that premise. It was in a world where women were encouraged to smile all the time and if they were caught frowning they would be given sort of like a fine or a tax because them frowning would make other people feel bad, but it ends with a bunch of women who feel bad because somebody they know died sort of rebelling against the tax and once a large number of people do it the authorities just run away.
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As a person who mostly writes post apocalyptic dystopia and is very cynical I don’t feel the need for everything to be positivity all the time. I can kind of understand the concern on social media, though because a lot of people take it too seriously and it has a very negative effect on people’s self-esteem, some even get driven to suicide by it, so by giving people the ability to react negatively you could be having a very bad effect on whoever posted it. I mean I get it, but at the same time it sort of reminds me of that episode of South Park where they had Kyle having to go through all of Cartman’s social media post and only showing him the positive ones so that he wouldn’t feel bad. I think that people have a hard time being criticized in general and that causes them to be driven away if they are. I use social media but if you use it too much it can get pretty toxic.
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I don’t really have the privacy to go naked by myself very often which is probably why it still feel strange and unnatural to me to be naked even when there aren’t any other people around. But I still think that there is a big stretch between being naked alone in private like that and being naked with other people whether or not they are dressed. I know that for people who were raised as nudist nudity doesn’t necessarily have a sexual connotation but for me I don’t think I could ever get around that, if I were naked around another person it would somehow feel sexual to me and that would make the experience rather awkward and intense but that is also what makes it exciting, but I can’t really speak from experience on that one…
It is funny though because I am a person who doesn’t really consider myself uptight in general as I think that there’s nothing wrong with nudity or the natural human body or natural bodily functions, and yet when you are doing that around other people or when you are like that it still feels rather unnatural. When you wear clothing 99.9% of the time when you find yourself naked it does feel sort of out of place, and to be that way when there are others around, particularly if others are dressed it really makes you feel out of place and that you stand out a lot more! But to me nudity without other people involved is fairly neutral in and of itself.
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@ptHarry
“If I had a female friend that wanted to try naturism, we would probably have chosen to go to a clothing optional place rather than one where nudity is compulsory. Giving her the choice to remain clothed until ready would seem to be the logical choice. But bearing in mind that the purpose of our visit would be for her to try naturism for the first time, I don’t think either us would be comfortable to discover she was the only female there.”
I agree. I think the clothing optional and nudity compulsory are two very different things as I think that most people who are starting this would probably be uncomfortable getting naked right away with lots of other naked people. I mean I can understand how they would want people there to all be mutually naked because otherwise it seemed like the people who are dressed are just going there to look at the naked people, but I think forcing somebody to get naked right off the bat when they aren’t comfortable is probably going to dissuade them from trying it again.
Personally I find nonmutual nudity to be more exciting anyway, to be the only one naked among a bunch of dressed people would be a very exhilarating and exciting experience. When you are the only one naked or the only one dressed it sort of puts you as standing out in the crowd and makes for an uncomfortable experience but that is part of what is the excitement from my perspective.
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Sorry to hear you had a bad experience and I agree that I probably wouldn’t go back to a resort where I had a bad experience with someone creepy like that. But I am sure that not all resorts are like that and you just unfortunately happened to run into somebody who is not respectful of your personal space. Again I can’t really speak from experience but I am sure that not all resorts are like that.
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I think it’s easier with strangers because there isn’t that awkward feeling of having to deal with them after the fact that you are naked. If people you know see you naked it sort of permanently changes the relationship does not will always know what you look like naked. But being naked around a bunch of strangers you will probably never see them again so there isn’t that awkward aspect to it like it would be with close friends or family.
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