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    • #17436
      Ed
        • Wales, UK
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        @ed

        It’s been a while since I moved from KoFi to Patreon for community support and, until today, everything has run fairly smoothly. Today I got a notification from Patreon informing me that a recent post on my page there has been flagged for content which does not meet their guidelines, and I have no idea why. I’m going to post it here (copied and pasted):

         

        What do you want to see in the next Vote-Off event?

        Fundamentally, Vote-Offs are a fun and engaging way to raise to money to help cover the community site’s operating costs, but they also serve the important function of attracting new members to the community.

        I aim to keep it a fun activity for everyone, so it would be nice to hear what everyone would like to see in Vote-Off #8. Would you like to see the same photo content (but different people) as last time? Would you like to see a theme (ie style of dress, location, forfeits etc.)? Or do you have a completely different idea?

        You can share your views here OR post them directly in the forum in the community site. Looking forward to hearing from you!

         

        There are no photos, I don’t mention undressing or nudity. There are no links off Patreon and I don’t think any of the language I’ve used is problematic. If I don’t work out the problem, I will likely get more posts flagged in future, which could put my account at risk. There is at least one typo (sorry!) but I don’t think that’s the issue.
        Any ideas?

      • #17437
        Dutch Penn
          • WV, US
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          @voyager61

          Weird, the previous several posts mention losing clothes, being voted naked and so forth, yet I presume not flagged. Unless, could this message you received have referred to one of them? Or the entire thread?

          Alternatively, if they’ve read the previous then they know what this post is talking about but still doesn’t explain why this one is a violation.

          Does this flag come from Patreon or could it be a visitor that pushed the “Report” button?

          My biggest concern is that Patreon could be just flagging any posts in order to rack up enough to justify closing the account. I’ve heard of web service providers doing so because they don’t approve of the client’s political views and/or sex issues. Lots, even most, can’t seem to distinguish between simple nudity and outright porn.

          Hoping it’s not some sort of witch-hunt like that, are you able to request clarification from them? Will they say what’s specifically wrong so you can avoid repeating the ‘mistake’?

          Do keep us informed on developments, Dutch

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          • #17438
            Ed
              • Wales, UK
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              @ed

              It’s hard to tell. My previous experience has been (with many other sites) that when I ask for clarification etc., they simply close my account. Flagging is sometimes by users, often automated (not sure with Patreon), but when I contact them, a real human gets involved and that’s the end.

              I don’t have an alternative lined up so if Patreon drops us, it’s probably game over.

          • #17439
            ptHarry
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              @patreon_96291032

              OnlyFakes had a problem with Patreon and changed to ccBill.

              But it’s difficult to make a comparison, because onlyfakes is mostly used to generating actual porn rather than just nonsexual nudity, so the two are very different.

              I’ve never heard of any site using ccBill before (and OnlyFakes is based in Finland, so it might not be available here) but there’s a review at https://www.merchantmaverick.com/reviews/ccbill-review/

              • #17444
                Ed
                  • Wales, UK
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                  @ed

                  I have LONG experience of CCBill and I’m never going back. I left them because they wanted to charge me £500 EACH per year for Visa and Mastercard just to be allowed to process them. CCBill used to be, by far, the biggest online adult processor.

                  Also. CCBill require site content to be vetted and match the credit card rules or you get fined. I can’t vet everything posted in the forums.

                  My paysites use Verotel now (who have been truly excellent) but they don’t allow user-content sites.

                • #17445
                  Ed
                    • Wales, UK
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                    @ed

                    Thanks for the review link, but I should point out that the link to visit CCBill on the review is a referral link (ie they get a tiny percentage of your turnover if you sign up with CCBill). This means the reviewer gains financially from referring new customers to CCBill and I find it hard to believe that doesn’t affect the review content.

                     

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