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      Ed
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        There are a couple of possible experiment sessions in the pipeline, with groups who have approached me, but more often than not they don’t pan out. It would be nice to get a better than 50% success rate.

        Anyway, the reason for my post is that someone has suggested, a few times now, that I should do an experiment for people of the sub tendency. His idea is I should get a few subs together (him included) and do some like one of the original experiment sessions, to see how all the participants being subs would change the dynamic.

        I thought I’d ask for opinions, to be fair to him, he’s complained that I didn’t open it for discussion on the forum.

        Another question, could we get enough together in one place?

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          So how would the experiments work?

          Would they be aimed at “forcing/telling” the participants to perform demeaing tasks – I know one of your participants (Experiment #2 I think) wanted you to tell her to underess.

          Would there be a Dom in the group as well or would that be your role?

          Definitely sounds of interest to me, just unsure how experiments tcould be sub/dom without getting too “explicit”.

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              Not sure I’d take part, but if there’s enough people wanting to participate, then good luck and have fun.  Not for me though.

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                I haven’t given much thought to the experiment, to be honest. My initial idea was to give commands instead of asking participants, and insist tasks are completed regardless of embarrassment. Nothing explicit and certainly nothing risky or harmful.

                I’m not too keen about including a dom in the mix as it will probably make it hard to keep the experiment on track, I’m a bit of a control freak, and, in my personal experience, a lot of doms are just unpleasant people. I’m sure there are nice ones out there, but I haven’t met many.

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                I agree with Gary. It would totally depend on the experiment.

                I would participate in an experiment, but I don’t see getting to the UK with time to do it in the near future. 🙂

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                  I’ve just tried replying but it disappeared for some reason. I think I said that maybe there’s always a dom/sub aspect to any game, experiment or role play. You give me the excuse to participate by telling me what to do. I take something off because you tell me to. We hide behind the rules of the game, but we’re still essentially allowing someone else to control what we do, even if it’s just in a brief role-play. And vice versa of course. If I roll a 6, I control what happens next, even if all I’m doing is following the rules of the game.

                  So yes, I could play a sub role in an experiment, but aren’t all participants pretty much doing that in any case?

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                      Very good point. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there. And I like to be the one setting the rules, so I don’t know what that says about me!

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                      With all of that discussion and answers then I think this sounds fun, the whole idea of the experiment is to experience being naked with others so if you’re told rather than encouraged then I’m fine with that.

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                        I guess, fundamentally, I tell people what to do in the experiments anyway. The difference is whether the participants are expecting to be required to comply or encouraged to comply.

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                            @gary

                            Count me in for that idea please.

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                            I am interested :o)

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                              It would depend on where and when, but I am interested

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                                Looks like we have some interest in this. I’d be fascinated to hear what you all think should happen in such an experiment, what would make it different to the usual experiments for you.

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                                  @gary

                                  Something outside our comfort zones – but that’s the whole idea of the experiments.

                                  Outside would be a challenge.

                                  Undressing/being undressed by someone else.

                                  Touching a naked person – not sure how this could/would work.

                                  Being blindfolded.

                                  Being naked then told what challenge to perform and complete before you can dress.

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                                      Something outside our comfort zones – but that’s the whole idea of the experiments.

                                      True.

                                      Outside would be a challenge.

                                      Outside is doable, but makes problems more likely. I have to plan a vehicle into the experiment and weather becomes a potential issue. Indoors is much easier to achieve.

                                      Undressing/being undressed by someone else.

                                      That’s a pretty standard component anyway.

                                      Touching a naked person – not sure how this could/would work.

                                      You’re gonna need a bigger consent form! I’m guessing that’s got to include touching parts that strangers don’t normally touch. Touching someone’s hand would not be a challenge.

                                      Being blindfolded.

                                      I can order blindfolds online easily.

                                      Being naked then told what challenge to perform and complete before you can dress.

                                      What sort of challenges were you thinking of?

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                                          @gary

                                          Touching a naked person : almost certainly  somewhere normally clothed, this is a challenge/barrier I want to explore, so is definitely a personal “request”.

                                          • Possibly 2 or more naked and blindfolded “players” that have to find and tag each other (have you every watched young children play tag-rugby?), the winner is the last person with a tag.

                                          What sort of challenge : fairly simple unless you’re feeling stressed about the situation.

                                          • Untie a knot with your hands behind you/blinfolded.
                                          • Pick up one (or more) “things” with your mouth and carry them to somewhere else, maybe allowing other participants to be moving obstacles (again touching might be a problem) or just blindfolded so it’s harder to find the from/to locations.
                                          • Walk long a straight line with eyes closed/blindfolded.
                                          • Have several people just with underwear on, if you fail a test then you have to stand naked facing everyone with legs apart and hands on your head until the next person fails the test.  The test could something as simple as turning over cards from a deck until you someone gets a pair.

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                                            I suspect the consent form for this, as regards touching, might have to specify what is not allowed instead of what is.

                                            I’m still very wary as not touching has always been a limit (although I do warn participants that there has to be minimal non-sexual touching when someone else undresses you).

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                                              @gary

                                              Fair comment on the touching, they are just ideas.  I was also hoping mine might prompt others to put their own ideas forward.

                                              You can’t have an experiment with no experiments 😉

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                                            I have seen a few videos of tickling challenges where you either have to not laugh/giggle or not let go of a bar above your head. If you laugh/let go depending on the challenge agreed you have to strip (or be stripped) off one item of clothing. Assuming the touching element could be agreed, this could be interesting??

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                                              If you want to take people out of their comfort zone  then you could run with psychometric or aptitude testing.
                                              eg, If result is dominant then they strip in front of  subservient.
                                              You could use tests for  situational judgement. numeracy, aptitude, cognitive ability, etc, to determine outcome of who is naked and who is clothed, who can dress and who can not
                                              The testing would need to be done separate and  in advance so the subject does not know what the forfeit or reward will be for their result.

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                                                  That might be a bit more formal than I was aiming for, but a very interesting idea.

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                                                      My $0.02….I think this is a good example of why some people might be put off getting involved: over complicating things.  Who has got time to complete psychometric tests?!?

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                                                        @gary

                                                        I agree – this would be  turn off

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                                                      I saw a post on another site a while back, I cannot remember the name. The challenge involved 2 people being locked into a chastity device or belt and having the keys locked in a combination safe. The two players are clothed to begin with and take turns guessing the combination. You could use your clothes to purchase extra guesses if you felt you were close to guessing correctly. If you guessed the combination correctly you would gain access to the safe and get to keep the other person’s keys. A few days (or was it weeks?).

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                                                          I’m not sure I like the idea of a “chastity device”, I feel it’s straying beyond NE’s topic area.

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                                                            Jamie
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                                                              I was thinking of it more as a tool to enforce the nudity tbh 🙂

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                                                                I’m not very familiar with them, beyond what I’ve seen on television and those seem to cover up.

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                                                                  They are relatively inexpensive, at least for a guy. There is a chastity website (not sure if links are allowed?) that you can use solo or with another person in charge. The only thing that you might need is a keybox or a safe for locking away the keys

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                                                                It’s so hard to measure interest in this. A few people seem interested but this conversation keeps fading out.

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                                                                  @gary

                                                                  The combination lock has promise, just not sure how to expand it to something we could use.

                                                                  A normal combination with 4 x 0-9 dials is a lot of combinations, so not sure how that would work.

                                                                  Possibly a key padlock with lots of keys to choose from but only one works and the naked players take turns to try a key to “get their clothes back”.  When you try a key you put it back in the pile and mix them up, so everyone has to find the right key to be able to dress.

                                                                  Not sure how this could be made embarrasing though.  Outside would do it, but as Ed said before, Outside is difficult to arrange.

                                                                  Could combine it with the naked walk, so players walk naked to the pad;locked box and then have to find the right key?

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                                                                      Or have duplicate padlocks, find the right key then take the key to the box with your clothes and unlock that padlock.  (separte keys and padlocks for each person – just don’t drop your key!)

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                                                                          Lots of ideas there, cool. Padlocks is interesting. Maybe locked boxes in different locations (around a field?) Every box has two padlocks. Every participant has one key (which he/she is not permitted to let go of). Participants would have to pair up and travel to random boxes until they find a combination that unlocks both padlocks?

                                                                          That might take too long and multiple keys to one padlock is probably MUCH easier to organise than multiple padlocks for one key.

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                                                                        That sounds a great idea! depending on location etc, count me in!

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                                                                          Male female paired, perhaps a combination lock with clues to the numbers scattered about. Perhaps an element of having to get into exposed positions to access the numbers. Low down and bent over, or high up. Or both do something embarrassing as ordered by Ed to be given a number…

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                                                                              Combination locks would make like easier for me. Maybe participants have to win combination cards to try on the locked boxes?

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                                                                                  Also means I don’t have to worry about keys getting lost!

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                                                                                May be easier indoors but perform tasks or solve puzzles to get the numbers, a sort of mini escape room. Picture taken at end, so if you haven’t solved the clues you’ll both be naked.

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                                                                                    I like that idea.

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                                                                                      @gary

                                                                                      Yes that’s a good idea.

                                                                                      Maybe mix it with the nude walk by having  parts of the combination on cards en route and have a map with the locations.

                                                                                      A mix of naked and racing to get home and orienteering

                                                                                      Getting to a very good game here

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                                                                                      You could always do this on a nude beach to avoid the police being called…

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                                                                                        Another idea is to have one less box than people and everyone nude. Then some kind of contest and each time someone wins they get a key to a box. As the game goes on the boxes will be in harder and harder locations inside …and eventually out. After all the boxes are used someone will be nude and there are no clothes left to win!

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                                                                                            I like that idea but which clothes go in boxes as we won’t know who’s lost when putting the clothes in the boxes. Unless everyone is wearing the same clothing (say disposable overalls?)?

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                                                                                                @revelation

                                                                                                All boxes would contain identical clothes. Perhaps own clothes would be at another location we all get driven too at end. So one would be nude for that…

                                                                                                At start all are driven to game in disposable clothes, which will be destroyed at start of game – so no backing out at that point.

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                                                                                                  So, either the participants could arrive in old clothes, knowing they will be destroyed, or they can change into disposable overalls at the start. Looks like I can get them for about £3-4 each.

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                                                                                                    Who’s still interested in the way this idea is going?

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                                                                                                      Still interested – but losing/using disposable clothes is preferable

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                                                                                                    I’m nterested, outdoors would have to be mixed and I would prefer that anyway to be honest. I’d keep it simple first go, or even do the indoor one I suggested. I do quite like the idea of getting everyone together at the end in various stages of undress depending on how well or badly they did.

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                                                                                                        I agree and I would MUCH prefer to do mixed anyway. However, right now I can’t see that being possible 🙁

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                                                                                                        Did this idea ever take hold?

                                                                                                        I’m interested but the idea still sounds like it needed finalising a bit.

                                                                                                         

                                                                                                        Do i read right but the general gist sounds something like.

                                                                                                        everyone turns up and gets naked and those clothes are stored.

                                                                                                        You get dressed in disposable clothes and drive/go somewhere else.

                                                                                                        You get naked (the disposable clothes are drestroyed) sounds like we are missing a fun part of an experiment here. Is there a fun way to split up the clothing in to segments based on the number of participants.

                                                                                                        If there are 4 people you choose 2 numbers between 1 and 6 randomly by dice or something. So you start with player 1, player 1 rolls the dice. Whoveres number comes up removes their top half of their clothing. That player then rolls the dice and that choses who removes the bottom half of clothing for player 1. This way uou all get naked by at least 1 if not 2 other people striping you.

                                                                                                        I guess with the word destroyed then clothes should be removed using scissors.

                                                                                                        Thrre are then 3 or x-1 (where X is number of players) boxes each with a another disposable set of clothes in.

                                                                                                        I guess in a mixed scenario you could alway play this with x-1 boxes for women (where X is number of women) and y-1 (where y is number of men) boxes for men.

                                                                                                        Tbose boxes are placed a distance away from the start of the game (increasing distance for each box to make the next one harder to get) all naked players then take part In a Random game contest to win a box.

                                                                                                        The first winner get the easiest box to retrieve. Then the 2nd winner gets the next easiest box and the 3rd winner gets the hardest box to retrieve.

                                                                                                        For the retrieval all naked players must walk to the box so for the first box all X players walk naked to get the box and return..then for the 2nd box all but the first winner have to walk to retrieve the box then for the 3 rd box the remaining players walk to the box and back. Then from the start you all walk to the car to be driven back to the original location where normal clothes are stored.

                                                                                                         

                                                                                                        The final twist is that the player who lost and stayed naked all the way back gets to destroy everyone else’s disposable outfits before they can get dressed again. You can choose to strip 1 player at a time or you could choose to just strip all bottom.halfs first then top halfs the choice is that players. Once everyone isnnaked again then everyone except the loser can get dressed. The loser has to wait for everyone else to be completely dressed again before they can get dressed.

                                                                                                         

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                                                                                                          I think it’s a great idea, but it needs to be mixed-gender and the only way that’s likely to happen is if we pay the women.

                                                                                                           

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                                                                                                            Not for the blokes who can’t wait to get their kit off and it doesn’t challenge them, but if you have a group like the netball players in future, could you see if they’d be willing to be incorporated in an experiment with some of us?

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