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      Ed
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      Ed
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      There’s not much new material arriving on Vimeo these days and YouTube seems to have mostly dried up. Lots of the nude performances that were on there for years have now been deleted leaving me wondering if YouTube is clamping down more recently. I know several SGC demo videos have been deleted in the past couple of weeks and they don’t even include any nudity.

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      Prof Green
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      Well I’m not going to type it all again but, briefly, I said I can’t see why simple nakedness would ever be a reason to delete anything.

      (I totally understand and support the need for filters by the way.)

       

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      Ed
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      Is that an error message this site has given?

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        Prof Green
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        Yes. I was waffling on about things that (if everything was all about me) should be openly visible, hidden behind some sort of barrier, or deleted. If this community’s spam filters act like email filters, I must have managed to clock up enough suspicious signs to trigger the message. It was a shame I couldn’t go back and try again but I totally understand the need for filters. I wasn’t using rude words, honest!!

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      Ed
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      I’ve never even looked at the spam filter. All I know is that it seems to work well most of the time. Sorry you suffered a false positive there. I think it mostly goes on how many links etc. are present in the post.

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      The vulnerability about being naked amongst an audience is highly addictive. It’s like being on a rollercoaster. Same with life modelling or even going for a naked stroll.

       

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      Prof Green
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      Yes, naked strolling is addictive to the extent it feels a bit weird being dressed sometimes. (Until I come across barbed wire or a patch of stinging nettles.)

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      Prof Green
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      Going back to the deletion of videos, I’ve thought a tiny bit more about this and (apart from legal definitions of obscenity etc) the only reasons I can think of where I’d support deleting anything are about consent, either of the copyright owner or the model(s). If there is serious doubt about informed consent being freely given, it should be deleted. One problem is how to spot an issue. For example, even a simple tasteful nude shot could be taken under duress or out-of-context, such as a holiday photo never intended for sharing. I sometimes wonder what’s going on where there is an entirely pointless nude scene in a video. Was it put there because the director wanted to see her naked? Was it because the director thought it would increase the size of the audience? How much pressure was the actress put under? Did her need for money outweigh her sensible and reasonable inhibitions? As a completely different example though, imagine a scene where a spreadeagled character gets her clothes cut off. Maybe it was on her bucket list, maybe she lost a game, maybe it was her birthday, maybe she was changing jobs, any of which could happen so even though it might look like an unacceptable act of violence, there are plenty of other possible explanations.

      It would be much better if channels that delete videos would replace them with a reason, whether it is copyright, legality (obscenity? underage?), a consent issue, image quality, content policies or whatever. Then at least we’d know what happened,

      Now let’s see if this post triggers the spam filter……

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      Twitter never say why they delete anything. I’ve had many of my videos deleted and they usually send me a link to the rules on appropriate content in their Ts&Cs. I’ve read through those in detail many times and my videos don’t come close to breaching any of the rules. There’s no nudity (at all), no sex, no violence and they have the appropriate age flags set. But still, every so often, one I posted months (or in one case 4 years) ago will be deleted and my account will be suspended for 7 days.

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      Prof Green
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      Could it be about copyright infringements (either real or imagined/claimed)? For photos, I try (not always very hard) to at least find out who the photographer was but I don’t know how to search for videos based on their content. It’s a bit irritating when people chop the beginning and end off videos so you don’t see the credits. At least with photos, image search tools seem to be quite tolerant of people cropping them or blurring copyright messages. On the other hand, it’s even more annoying when someone plasters a watermark all over an image that wasn’t theirs to start with.

      This one is by Nikolai Endegor

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