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Might be worth everyone interested stating where (roughly) they are located.

I know we haven’t got into the details of when etc. but some idea of location would help establish if it’s possible.

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Outskirts of Bristol would be good. (The city centre has a nightmare road system, a congestion charge and very expensive parking).

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Online card transactions happen entirely under the rules of Visa and Mastercard. They have VERY strict rules. Any company that doesn’t want to follow those rules can just choose not to sell stuff online. There is no alternative. If you don’t comply, they can shut you down instantly. Patreon won’t risk losing their entire business.

Sadly, there are no British card processors left.

Patreon must comply with their processor’s rules (which are dictated by Visa and Mastercard). UK law doesn’t really apply.

UK banks have been debanking people for adult content for years (I’ve lost 2 bank accounts and 3 online-billing accounts over the past 15 years). This isn’t a sudden change, but the rules have been steadily tightening up and UK law is adding more restrictions too, especially regarding age verification.

To clarify, the reason for possibly moving site content onto the Patreon system is so the age-verification requirement (UK law – July this year) becomes their problem rather than ours (mine). See: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/illegal-and-harmful-content/roadmap-to-regulation

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Having photo-ID for “performers” is a requirement for financial transactions, so I get no say in that. If I don’t comply, Patreon will not process for me. It doesn’t matter how old people look – it’s the documentation which is required.

When AMOC and SGC close, this site cannot continue. It would need to increase its income many times over to cover the hosting cost – although I would gain considerable storage space, so it’s not all negative.

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If I had the budget (lol) I would buy a big old camper van. Then a venue wouldn’t be needed.

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I would need time to get there anyway. I have commitments until around 9am so I would struggle to get to reading much before 11am.

 

Does everywhere for rent in Reading have CCTV??

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M4 corridor is easiest for me (so anywhere from Swansea area to Reading or Slough). I’ll struggle with weekends. Weekdays are much easier for me, especially Monday-Wednesday.

One thing I’ve done in the past is collect some participants from the nearest train station and get them to the venue.

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The main Master Dare List page (not the results table) gets the most visitors by far, then the blog (ie main landing page) comes a  second. As a distant 3rd, with less than a quarter of the visitors, we get the MDL ranking table, followed closely by the forums and then the blog categories “Video” and “Photos”. After that, it’s a list of individual forums getting less than 2% as much as the MDL.

I’m not sure how popular the Ranking table would be with just results totals and no links to photos. How many people would take part without photos being published?

We can run the conversations (forums) on Patreon itself with their “Community” section. The site’s Patreon page actually gains more free members every day than visit the actual website so expanding posts and forums there would make sense. Without the videos/galleries on the site however, how many people would still become patrons?

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I have to be able to prove that anyone naked on the site is over 18 (regardless of how they look – it’s the documentation that counts).

The annoying thing with all of this is anyone who is dodgy and doesn’t comply with existing laws, just won’t comply with this one either. It’s everyone who is above-board and following the rules who will suffer all the extra hurdles to stay legal. We’ve already lost almost two-thirds of the UK adult industry. This change will probably wipe out much of the rest.

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Patreon only allows nudity with photo ID to prove consent and age of those being posted. I’ve looked at getting an 18+ clearance on Patreon and it’s too complicated. If I was running an adult site, it might be worth it, but working with volunteer participants, it’s just not viable. None of this part is anything to do with UK law.

UK law is bringing in a ridiculous and unrealistic age-verification requirement. If anyone manages to get in who isn’t of age, I will be liable. Right now, this is going to force AMOC and SGC to close.

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