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    • #19733
      Ed
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        I suspect it might be wise to assume that Vimeo will not be available much longer..

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      • #19737
        ptHarry
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          Maybe, but at the moment if I go to https://vimeo.com/search?q=naked :

          • from firefox in the UK, logged in to my free vimeo account, I see 33.9 K video results
          • from opera, in the UK and not logged in, I see 30.3K results
          • from opera, not logged in and using the free VPN set to America, I also see 30.3K results
          • from opera, with the free VPN set to Europe or Asia, I see “This page isn’t available in your region”

          I’m not sure why there should be a reduction in the results available in Opera. It could be due to not being logged in, or there could be some other reason. But that’s only a 10% reduction anyway.

          But for the moment, the search still seems to be available in UK even though it has gone from Europe … and even if it goes from UK too, using opera with VPN set to America looks like it may still get search results.

          Also, Vimeo states

          • “You can still embed your videos wherever you choose, including on other websites and social platforms.”
          • “Your videos will remain discoverable outside the EU/UK through a site-wide search”

          So

          • a video URL found by searching in America can still be embedded into a page, to be played in UK/Europe (also tested via VPN=Europe), and
          • having found and played any one video, it still seems to be possible to see “More from Harry” which shows everything else I’ve uploaded, even though I’m only a “free” member

          At the moment, the problem seems to be less that Vimeo might close altogether, and more that EU might find some way to ban VPNs.

           

           

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          • #19739
            Ed
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              In the past week, I’ve had to remove 9 embedded video posts as the source videos have been deleted. That’s quite a surge compared to the normal rate. I’m wondering if some EU Vimeo posters are leaving the site?

               

              Also, can’t Vimeo users choose which geographic locations their videos are available in? That might account for the different counts for different places.

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          • #19740
            ptHarry
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              Ed: “can’t Vimeo users choose which geographic locations their videos are available in? ”

              There are limited settings:

              Who can watch

              but no obvious way to limit watching to a specific area.

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            • #19745
              ptHarry
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                There is also setting to control embedding:

                embedding

                My free account doesn’t show what options exist for “sites I choose” but this would affect only the ability to embed the video. It shouldn’t affect the ability to search for it, or to play it if you already know its URL.

                I do have a note on my account which I think is saying that on 25th Jan my existing videos will be reset to “not embeddable” unless I update the embed code to mark them as embeddable. Perhaps users in other countries have been given different dates, which might already have passed.

                If you kept the URL of one of the videos you had to delete, you could check whether that video is still playable. If it is, then it’s fairly likely the owner has not set an embed code and possibly doesn’t even know they need to do so.

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                • #19747
                  Ed
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                    I’ve definitely had videos appear in search results that say “Not available at your location” in white text on a black screen in the past. It’s not a common occurrence. Videos not being embeddable is much more common.

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                    • #19751
                      ptHarry
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                        I rechecked and found the difference between getting 33K results and only 30K is due to not being logged in.

                         

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                      • #19752
                        Ed
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                          That would certainly explain it.

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                    • #19884
                      Ed
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                        Pretty much everything on Vimeo is saying “not available in your region” now. I can’t search, see collections, view my bookmarks or see any of the groups.

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                      • #19892
                        John
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                          If Vimeo goes and you can’t find any suitable alternatives, perhaps use the space to suggest videos that we can make?

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                          • #19893
                            Ed
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                              I like that idea. In the meantime, the Master Dare List accepts videos (as well as photos).

                              I have to be careful of male nudity in the blog. Male nudity alongside substantial female nudity works, but male-only nudity drastically drops traffic to the site (as the blog is the landing page and the main attractor to our community). I’m doing a fair bit of work to increase visitors and it’s wasted if I’m not careful.

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