Staying positive

[Ed]

Patreon worked well for us for a few months but things have cooled off considerably. I’m sticking with it as it’s worked better than any previous solutions for keeping the site running (also Patreon keeps 12% themselves AND charges a fee for paying out money). It’s particularly helpful for me, as I don’t have to manually add and remove Community Supporters as memberships start and end.

At one point, we got within shouting distance of the target I set at the start but some of the supporters fell away and things settled down at around half that level. Adverts haven’t worked and the Vote-Offs (which began very successfully and then headed sharply downward) are a lot of work for less and less return. The photo vote-offs usually take around two weeks of intensive work for me and it’s tricky to find time. I can’t justify taking time off work if it doesn’t make any money as I’ll finish up earning less money myself and still paying out for the site’s running costs.

Visitors to the community are following a recurring pattern. It slowly builds up to around 1500-1600 per month then Christmas or the summer happens and we’re back down to 900 or less.

Engagement is similarly middling. Any regular visitors to our community can see there’s a lot of activity each week (the latest activity pane is all posts within the past week) but I can’t seem to get regular daily activity going. Hitting that kind of momentum has been elusive.

Fundamentally, the community shows promise and has enough activity to stay alive, but I’m not feeling any ongoing growth, especially regarding female members. I’m sure that more female participants in the Master Dare List would help because the one-sided nature of the membership now is putting new visitors off staying. I can guarantee that an all-female vote-off would draw many new visitors to the community and encourage a HUGE surge in voting.

It’s been years now. Are we any closer to more female participants?

I’m trying to stay positive (and have been for a few years) but expect AMOC and SGC to close down within 12 months. Naked Experiment must be self-sufficient before then. I don’t know what else to try to get this to take off.

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[John]

We all know what would happen if there was a mixed vote off, but is there another way of doing a mixed one to make it a matter of skill or chance, so the women don’t automatically end up naked?

If so how could it be monetised? Not got any ideas myself yet, just thinking out loud as we  haven’t got the women for an experiment or a vote off but may be able to get a couple for a fair mixed competition?

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[Ed]

There have been many discussions. Pretty much all the voting the past few Vote-Offs has come from participants. Getting non-participants to vote stopped after the 1st vote off.

I currently have two potential groups of women for experiments but neither group have committed yet. Solo women for experiments are like hens’ teeth. There’s essentially no use advertising for them as it’s rare two show interest in the same window and it’s been months (or years) since any have agreed to take part. The groups are much more successful (no risk I suppose).

Not sure about the monetisation question. The Vote-Offs are the biggest source of income already. More participants = more votes = more money raised. Female participants would also drastically increase the votes.

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[Anonymous]

I’ll post my reply if you want an honest answer/opinion? It might not be what you want to hear though?

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[Ed]

I certainly don’t want a dishonest opinion, so please post away. Right now I’m 50/50 on bothering to continue.

We’ve had 4 revamps, many features added, many features removed, lots of changes made to accommodate needs/preferences of female members etc. I’ve reduced the number of forums (and do wonder about reducing it further) to focus the posts. I’ve added shortcuts to most recent content etc., improved the menus numerous times, tweaked the colour scheme more times than I can count. I don’t know how many logos we’ve been through too.

The FAQ and a few pages like it have reduced my workload appreciably. So that’s good. I think the community rules are about right now.

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