Core regulars and nudity

[Ed]

This community, like any other online community, has a core of regulars who visit often, interact a lot, are often patrons on Patreon and collectively account for well over half the site’s activity. I’m considering creating a verified-only (age-checked etc.) private area on the site where nudity will still be permitted.

With the upcoming regulations on showing nudity on the site to all visitors, the server move, billing restrictions etc., we’ve had a lot of discussion around how to restructure this site for the future.

I’m beginning to see a future for this community in which the public areas of the site don’t show uncensored nudity. The Master Dare List will still display the photo results of dares but with genitalia etc. censored. Any actual nudity would only be available inside the restricted area (not sure what it might be called?). There might be another results table for MDL with the nude photos.

It would be easiest to combine the whole “verified” and age-checked things into one on-cam check. If anyone looks younger than mid-twenties, it would require an ID check too, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen as everyone seems to be 30s/40s or older.

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[John]

That makes sense and is a sensible compromise. It also leaves the facility to reinstate things if the new law doesn’t end up to be quite so draconian in its interpretation in reality.

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[Ed]

My thought exactly. Manually checking everyone isn’t ideal but I think it counts as “robust” and won’t cost a fortune in fees to get an external company to do it. Also, for most people, I won’t need to see photo ID.

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[Ed]

What should I call the area for people who have been verified naked on webcam and allows nudity?

Naked Experiment Club?

The League of the Verified?

The Naked Bunch?

Cohort of the Exposed?

It needs to be something short(ish) and that mostly makes sense to the non-verified.

[TheG]

• Bare necessities
• Clothing optional
• The Kitoff Klub

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[John]

They who must be exposed 🙂

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[Gary]

The Hair Bare Bunch – if you remember the cartoon Hair Bear Bunch it makes more sense 🙂

Seriously, this is an excellent idea.  I am more than happy to comply to allow the site to continue.

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[Ed]

There’s some fairly heated objection, but I like the way this is shaping up. The more I think about it, the more I think this is made more viable by the age of our members (usually 40s upwards) and the relatively small size of the community. Originally, I thought manual testing was a faff, but we don’t want all the people who are just coming here looking for free porn (it costs me in bandwidth and brings no benefits to the community). I don’t think anyone could argue that checking each applicant personally isn’t a “robust” age checking system.

The key problem I’m finding with the paid systems that are appearing online is that I’d end up paying a fee, directly or indirectly, for every failed (and therefore inappropriate) sign up attempt. Also, they all have an API to integrate with the site and I have absolutely no idea how easy that is. They all talk about “minimal code” and “integrating their secure API with your scripts”, none of which sounds technically simple to do. As far as I can see, that would have to be manually integrated with badges system anyway. Manual age checking can also be combined with verification when users are interested.

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[Ed]

The biggest thing I want everyone to remember is age-verification will be optional. You can remain a member of the community, chat in forums, hear about experiments, get the articles and news posts, etc. You just won’t get uncensored nudity after the site change in July without your age being verified (either you’re obviously over 18 on webcam – which almost everyone here is, or you show proof of age on webcam and all I record is that you are over that minimum age).

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[ptHarry]

• Bare Hunter
• Birthday Suitor
• Who Bares Wins
• Bare Truther

Perhaps with an appended (Male)/(Female)/(Couple) option for those who want that to be publicly known.

 

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[Ed]

I’m still keeping those two systems (age verified and sex verified) separate, but it would make sense to get both verifications done at the same time (if people want).

[Ed]

I particularly like the “Who Bares Wins” suggestion.

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[Ed]

So I’ve got patrons on Patreon (who support the site with a small monthly amount), those who are verified as willing to get naked (and gender verified), and those who are age-verified.

That’s too many groups and will cause much confusion. I think Patreon’s system will have to be separate anyway, but having two optional verification systems will probably be a problem.

[Since1980_v2]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>Who bares wins sound like a competition not a community area to share.</p>
The bare assembly or the bare collective.

Behind/beyond the profiles

Exposed: the members

 

I don’t envy you working out the ways to control access though.

 

 

 

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[John]

How about ‘no clothes permitted beyond this point’ 🙂

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[Since1980_v2]

<p style=”text-align: center;”>Following the keep it simple stupid method…. Uncensored</p>

[ptHarry]

Are we looking for two names? One for those who have been verified to be over 18 (to be admitted to the private area) and one for those who want to demonstrate that they are male or female and willing to get naked for an experiment?

For the first, “Verified 18+” is probably sufficient.

For the second, maybe “Grinned and bared it”. Except that I’m wondering if it might be more appropriate for the results of that verification not to be shown in the forum, in which case the name we call them isn’t so important.

If we had hundreds of women wanting to be in the experiments, it probably wouldn’t matter. But initially at least the number of willing female participants is going to be small.

So, lets suppose three women are included in the next Naked Experiment. Their forum names are Alice, Barbara and Carol. But for privacy, in the experiment they use the names Denise, Elaine and Faye. That won’t preserve their anonymity if at the time the forum is showing that Alice, Barbara and Carol are the only women who have Grinned and Bared It. The other participants won’t know for certain whether Alice was Denise, Elaine or Faye but it’s almost certain that Alice, Barbara and Carol were the women in the experiment.

 

 

 

 

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[TheG]

I didn’t think this was about participating in an experiment. It was more about seeing uncensored nudity on the site. I can see that getting age verification from people doing an experiment would be important, but isn’t that a completely separate thing? Without age verification on this site, I could remain a member of the community, chat in forums, hear about experiments, get the articles and news posts, etc. I just wouldn’t see uncensored nudity.

I really would like to take part in an experiment, though sadly I can’t imagine it ever being practical for me to do so. If I did, I would then expect to be asked for age verification for the experiment, if I wan’t already verified for the site.

Regarding having two alias accounts, the problem would be if I disclosed some things about myself as Alice and then also disclosed some other things about me as Faye. If someone works out that Alice and Faye are the same person, there are now twice as many clues about who I am. Someone reading about Faye in an experiment report, and reading what Alice wrote here in the forums, and realising they were both me, could potentially have twice as much information about me. I don’t know how that relates to the age verification though. How would the reader of the experiment report know that Faye was even a member of this community at all?

[Ed]

Don’t worry about age verification for experiments. That’s completely separate. During the preparation stage, I chat to all the participants either in person or via Skype (as it was then), so age verification is not a problem.

The age verification is for gaining access to the parts of the community which will include nudity. No-one else will see those areas.

Those who are age verified don’t get a badge. There will be optional badges for “Verified Female”, “Verified Male” and “Verified Naked”.

I’m trying to come up with a name for the age-restricted area, not the people in it.

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[John]

Please don’t worry folks, two of us have gone through the verification process already, one male one female, and it was reasonable painless, though I have no idea why Ed needed me to do 300 naked Star jumps with a rubber duck balanced on my head 🙂

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[ptHarry]

@john @seasider “I have no idea why Ed needed me to do 300 naked Star jumps with a rubber duck balanced on my head”

A plastic duck wouldn’t be environmentally friendly. And I’m sure a real duck would count as cruelty.

I wouldn’t have thought 300 star jumps was necessary though. I’m sure 299 would have sufficied 🙂

 

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