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By now, most of us have probably tried out one or more of the AI image generators. Some are terrible and a few are excellent. The feature they almost all share is a ban on nudity or anything remotely “adult” in nature. I’ve found one which is happy with nudity, produces high-quality images and also allows up to 100 free image generations per week. Obviously, there are limits (nothing illegal for starters) but if you type “Four naked women on the beach” then it generates exactly that (although there might sometimes be five!)There are paid features but 100 free images isn’t bad.
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It’s a wild site. I’m unaccustomed to AI interfaces. My original and AI product are vastly and hilariously different.
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As Ed pointed out in another post (which I don’t seem to be able to link to) , the results are often impressive but contain obvious errors.
Often the results look correct when they are first seen:
but it only takes second glance to spot the mistakes:
- is that table floating in the pool?
- they appear to be playing a game, but what is it?
- why is the woman in the middle wearing a bright yellow glove on her right hand, apparently to take off her matching yellow bikini
- the man left of centre is wearing a brown shirt that is shaped like a lifejacket
Oh, I think I’ve worked it out. AI thinks the game is pool, So they’re playing it on what it thinks is a pool table, which is why it’s floating. And the man is wearing a life jacket because he’s worried it is going to sink 🙂
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Ed’s post is at Ed’s post
But when I tried to update my previous message to include it, the whole post disappeared twice.
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But it seems not to understand that cats don’t wear clothes.
To make it appropriate for the intended audience here, I changed the prompt to a naked black cat in a coal cellar at night:
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That is one weird interpretation. I think the large language models and latent diffusion models are an impressive leap forwards but they are NOT the general intelligence we’re striving for. People see more intelligence there than there actually is.
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The forum seems to have lost my Naked Black Cat in a Coal Cellar at Night picture that was originally in the message a few posts back,
I thought that might happen, because the picture was uploaded in the post that disappeared. But the upload was still on the server at the time. Looks like scheduled maintenance has removed it, so here it is again:
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Other times it can be rather stupid:
Why would an artist mount her canvas on the wrong side of her easel?
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Onlyfakes has weekly competitions. This week, not too surprisingly, is about Valentines. Unusually, they have said this week’s entries should be Safe For Work.
So, vaguely inspired by Shakespeare in Love:
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Or: (not entered for competition due to this week’s rules):
Act 2: The same, three hours later
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My Shakespeare in Love had 9 votes. More than I expected.
The winning entry was a teddy bear with a box of chocolates, getting 12,
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This was inspired by Knocking a door naked is much more daring than answering it!
(but it doesn’t seem to be allowed to post a link and an image in the same post, so see the next one).
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This on is actually pretty hilarious. Original is me and my guy friend in a public pool. The filter turned him into my paw
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@flflirt: The thumbnail only shows part of the full size display:
Maybe the filter is trying to give him a message: “hands off” 🙂
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It’s the details that almost always give AI-generated images away. This pic is almost perfect apart from the wispy beard. Where did that come from?
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Ed: “don’t look at the guy on the right’s hands”
And the women behind him seems to be working for a company that only employs a skeleton staff 🙁
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Sometimes, it works better. I uploaded a photo from the Albert Memorial:
and asked it to add Victorian costumes in full colour.
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If we can dress them, then we ought to be able to undress them too.
But one of the men was too shy and colour photography was too expensive in 1860. , The Statues Union said the women needed body doubles and even then, one of them visibly turned their nose up about having to pose on a plinth in a public park.
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Is anyone still experimenting with this?
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Anything in particular you think we should try?
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I did this one for a competition:
“Her birthday is April 1, so the new lion tamer at the local zoo has to wear her birthday suit and invite the lions for a picnic”.
Not recommended to do at home, but if she was real, she would qualify for the Naked at Work page 🙂
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Ed: “There are still frequent problems with fingers”
The story I heard was that AI gets confused because there are too many examples of wrongly-drawn hands on the web. AI can only “learn by example”. If it sees a significant proportion of incorrectly drawn hands on the web, and has no way to be taught right from wrong. And then, we can expect AI to generate a similar percentage of incorrectly drawn hands. Effectively, “garbage in, garbage out”.
Many of us have been looking at web pages for 25 years. Most of us have probably never remember seeing a web page and exclaiming “that hand is wrong”. Yet as soon as we judge created by AI, we notice. Could it be that we subconsciously assume that AI should be superior, and apply a higher standard to the work it produces than to the work produced by mere humans?
Maybe even, if I popped into the National Gallery and had a close look at paintings I’ve briefly glanced at before and study them in more detail, I would find similar examples of badly drawn hands amongst them. But I don’t have time to do that right at the moment.
Instead I did a web search, and found this:
Why can’t AI draw realistic human hands?
Eray Eliaçık
January 19, 2023One observation it makes is that “most cartoon hands only feature three digits and a thumb. Since we’re used to it, our brains don’t even register it”.
I never knew that, and was prepared to believe it to be true — but wanted convincing. The cartoons I saw at an early age would mostly have been Beano and Dandy. But an image search for Beano and Dandy Cartoons completely disproved that idea. Every hand I checked had the correct number of fingers :). Perhaps Beano and Dandy were two examples of cartoons that were “different to most” but it seems too much of a coincidence. Perhaps the statement is correct for the USA market and UK cartoonists are more strict on accuracy.
What about the backgrounds?
Two possible reasons. Sites have to share resources between everybody that is using them, so putting less computation power into generating good backgrounds means possibly more attention can be given to getting the main person right. Certainly it seems that asking for just one person is more likely to give good results than asking for several. And one user has recommended specifying “blank background” to improve rendering of the foreground.</div>
But I also wonder whether that’s a technique that AI might have learned from famous artists in museum pictures found on the web. There you will often find huge pictures with a few people in the foreground painted in very high detail, and lots more people in the background each painted with just a few brushstrokes to give an impression of a lot of people with very little detail each
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I’ve read (no idea where) that AI’s struggle to “understand” (not the right word but I don’t know the actual term) the mechanics of human fingers. There are so many pictures with hands in completely differing positions and poses that unless you already know there should be four fingers and one thumb, all those photos where less are visible (often due to angle) mislead the learning.
Personally, we’re a LONG way from a human-like intelligence. With picture and text generation, we’ve got something very easy to anthropomorphise and see far more intelligence than is truly present.
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I honestly can’t believe I haven’t tried any of these before because I could really be using it to illustrate all of the crazy stories in my imagination!
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I don’t think that I did this right as I tried using this to make a cover for my new CFNM novella. Here’s the description that I put versus what I got: An image of three naked men on an island covering up their genitals and blushing as their clothing dissolves around them as three women behind them, one blonde, one African-American and one olive skinned in one piece bathing suits stand there smiling and laughing as a pterodactyl is flying around in the sky in the background.
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I don’t know if anyone has any advice on how to do this better. But as you can see it’s kind of not what I wanted as I wanted it to be the three men who were completely naked as their clothing was sort of dissolving yet most of them you can still see have their genitals covered up by swimsuits not with their hands, and there’s only one woman in the picture and she’s topless. Also the image is extremely small and the image quality isn’t really that bright. What exactly did I do wrong?
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I don’t think any of the AI image generators can produce stuff that’s not in the training library. They can combine elements, but clothes dissolving probably isn’t in there.
Also, from what I’ve seen, they pretty much use your prompt as keywords so it’s extremely hard to get some people reliably naked and others reliably dressed. Usually you just get a mix for everyone in the picture.
Are you sure you’re getting the full-sized image and not just the preview thumbnail?
I get 1536×1536 sized pictures out of it.
The attached photo has a prompt stating one naked woman in an office filled with dressed people. It didn’t work out.
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I typed in that and that was pretty much what I got, I didn’t know if there was a way to make it bigger and I realize you had to be really specific like that, so I guess it only has a limited range of what it can produce. I guess I could still use it for the cover of my book but it’s not fully accurate or exactly what I was hoping for, but it would be better than having just a cover with the title like most of my books. I was really kind of hoping that AI would be the key to having more interesting covers, but I guess what I wanted was too specific.
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I think AI will struggle to get that kind of detail. To begin with, AI cannot count. Asking for three of something will most likely give you either two or four.
It also seems to cope better with generics than details. Describing males and females with different characteristics will most likely give you some of the characteristics you ask for, but not necessarily applied to the right people.
The closest I got (but I haven’t tried very long):
Prompt: (Three naked men on an island covering up their genitals and blushing as their clothing dissolves around them:1.4). Three women stand behind them, one blonde, one African-American and one olive skinned. (The three women are in 1920 one piece bathing suits, standing there smiling and laughing:1.3). (A pterodactyl is flying around in the sky in the background:1.2). (Detailed face and eyes:1.4)
Negative Prompt:
Style: Comic
Engine: Realistic HD
Seed: 3924694870
CFG: 7.5
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I can honestly say that the results you got were better than what I got. And the weird thing is that you decided to put the characters in 1920s bathing suits. The premise of my novella is about three men and three women going in a vacation in the Bermuda triangle and then entering a time warp where they are on this island with people from all different times and places and the only thing different about the island is that the island dissolves all the clothing of men but not women so it’s a place where men can’t wear clothing or use weapons so the women have built like a society of Amazons that sort of like a matriarchal utopia I guess where everybody is happy because the men enjoy being naked in the women enjoy looking at them.
So the result that you got is actually strangely enough something that would fit really good with the actual plot. I never specify characters from the 1920s specifically but the ideas that everybody who finds themselves on this weird island that dissolves men’s clothing from all different times and places in history.
There was actually one scene that is sort of like the climax of the novella where you basically have a pterodactyl carry off the naked men and put them inside of their nest and then the women come dressed as warrior women brandishing spears and they end up killing the pterodactyl and rescuing the naked men in sort of an inversion of that whole trope of the damsels in distress. That would be a great scene for the cover but based on everything you described that would probably be very specific and it probably wouldn’t come out looking as cool as I am imagining it in my mind.
But I do like the result that you got better than the result that I got in that one would probably make a better cover. The one thing though is that the faces on the women look kind of like weird like almost like abstract art or something. I have heard that AI sometimes has a difficulty with getting certain features such as how a lot of people who have used these programs will find that their characters have six fingers for some reason. I am sure as the technology gets better that it will be easier to get more specific, and who knows maybe someday people will be able to produce Hollywood blockbusters from their home computer.
But yeah I like the result that you got even though it does sort of mismatch the characters. The men in the novel I never really describe them very much physically, but the women I described as a blonde woman, and all of skin woman and an African-American woman, so it seems like this one made all of the women blonde and made the man the African-American character. Of course if we assume the women in the 1920s bathing suits are from a different time and place they could be other characters other than the main three women.
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I did a little bit of tuning (but not much) because in the initial attempts (with no year specified) AI was generating skimpy modern bikinis and omitting the men altogether:
I added the year 1920 hoping to get old fashioned swim suits for the women but they still came low cut and occasionally naked. I’ve since found frumpy works better, especially if a photo of a 1920 bathing suit is uploaded as a reference.
Better faces can sometimes be achieved by “inpainting” — highlighting just one face at a time and describing that face alone. It doesn’t always work, but because the AI is now concentrating on only that face, it will often be able to improve it.
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I think that that last one is perhaps the best one because although it omits the men altogether it does sort of at least get the women accurate but their mouths still look kind of weird, like they have really big buck teeth. Also the pterodactyls I’m not sure you could tell immediately from looking at them what they are, maybe after reading the story people will pick up on that, but it looks almost like hang gliders. But I realize that there is limitations to what the AI can do, these pictures may not be fully accurate but they would be better than a generic photo or just the title on a book, and I could put the small one that I made as my author photo LOL.
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With AI, you will stand a much better chance if you break down your image into smaller pieces.
That helps in many ways:
- AI will probably not generate a full size book cover at 300dpi, which is the recommended minimum for printing
- You stand a better chance of getting good faces if there are only a few people in each image
- Likewise, AI is likely to do something closer to what you ask if you don’t ask it to do too much in each image.
- You can work individually on each of the images until you get the best result, without upsetting other parts of the image
- AI cannot usually generate sensible titles, but a book without a title isn’t going to fly off the shelves
- Once you have all the elements, a conventional graphics package can take over to cut out the elements, enhance the resolution, adjust the relative sizes and arrange them in a pleasing layout leaving space for the titles.
For example:
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I tried making a book cover using what I had already and here’s sort of what I came up with, it’s not ideal. That last one you came up with if it didn’t have the text on it would actually be probably the best one. I am really terrible with computers and graphics and all of this stuff but here’s what I came up with. I already submitted it for publication and it hopefully will be ready tomorrow but I suppose there’s the possibility of changing the cover as I don’t think it would be that difficult.
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I mean that last one you got with the caption a tall story would actually be pretty good if I could just put the title of my book on it CFNM Island by Arthur Pemmington but I don’t know how that would work because Amazon is where I publish it and it sort of gives you a limited number of possible choices for cover arrangements. And the one that I put on there I put the women on the front of the cover but it kind of cut their heads off.
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Is this for a Kindle eBook?
I found https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200645690 which says:
- Ideal dimensions for cover files are 2,560 pixels in height x 1,600 pixels in width. For best quality, particularly on high definition devices, your image should be 2500 pixels in height.
I also found a cover creator, which I presume is what you are using. But it doesn’t seem to be possible to try that out without first creating a book to attach the cover to.
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I publish it as both a paperback and a Kindle because it’s better to have it in all formats, and I checked and CFNM Island is already available in the Kindle form, so if you check that on Amazon you can look at the cover that I made since it seems like it was too big to post here. But it seems like I always end up having a problem with the paperback. The Kindle version seemed like it published within like an hour but now I checked today and the paperback was still on draft, even though I did everything to get it to publish correctly, as it seems like I always end up having trouble getting the paperback version to work, and I really don’t know what I am always doing wrong. I think that with the paperback the cover has to fit a certain size so I think that the cover usually proves to be an issue, but it didn’t say that I had any issues. Right now it’s in review so I’m hoping that the paperback version will be available tomorrow but it does seem that if you go to the Kindle that it’s available in digital format already and you can see the cover, and it looks like somebody already read $0.70 worth so that’s a good sign! So I know I did it right to publish the digital version but I’m still sort of waiting on the paperback version.
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I found the amazon page for it. Curiously it’s not indexed on Amazon UK, but DuckDuckGo found it on one of Amazon’s international pages.
Looking at the headless women, the obvious solution would be to move the author panel upwards but I assume the cover designer doesn’t give you that flexibility. If that’s the case, it could probably be fixed by making the original image wider and less high. I’ll have a look at that later. But to somebody that doesn’t know what you intended, it probably looks intentional — as if, even though they’re not real people, you wanted to preserve their anonymity.
On the back cover, the overlaid text disguises the poor quality faces, though we could probably have improved those with a bit more work.
Comparing that with some of your previous e-books, I notice one obvious difference: there is no spine. A printed book needs the title on the spine, so that you can find the book when it is vertical on a bookshelf. The Amazon instructions I found suggested the cover designer would create a spine for you, but it hasn’t done so for this one. Maybe you need to configure the spine in some way before it will put the printed version on sale.
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“I found the amazon page for it. Curiously it’s not indexed on Amazon UK, but DuckDuckGo found it on one of Amazon’s international pages.”
I always check to make sure it’s available in all possible markets but it’s possible that it just hasn’t gone through yet. I live in the United States so maybe it ends up publishing there first. But it only published less than a day ago so maybe it’s not available everywhere yet. But I always check and I always click the option of making it available in whatever market, in fact I think that I actually get more sales from the UK including books under my own name and my other pseudonym.
“Looking at the headless women, the obvious solution would be to move the author panel upwards but I assume the cover designer doesn’t give you that flexibility. If that’s the case, it could probably be fixed by making the original image wider and less high. I’ll have a look at that later. But to somebody that doesn’t know what you intended, it probably looks intentional — as if, even though they’re not real people, you wanted to preserve their anonymity.”
It was kind of disappointed with how that came out that this has happened on other books as well, it sort of decapitated my characters but I don’t think it really gives you the option to change that is you can’t sort of move the title up. They sort of give you a limited number of possible cover arrangements and I picked this particular cover because it allows you to put something on the front and the back so that I was able to get both of the images, but yet does kind of look bad that it decapitated the characters. I mean the characters are obviously made using digital animation and they aren’t real women so it’s not a matter of keeping them anonymous it’s just that the picture got cut off unfortunately and I really don’t know how you can really fix that like how you resize these images or whatever it is. That’s why usually go with pretty generic titles and pretty generic covers. A lot of my books I don’t really have any pictures I just have the title or if I can find something freely available on the Internet like clipart or something I will use that. That’s why was kind of getting excited about the idea of AI because I am thinking here I can make my own covers that actually reflect something in the book itself.
“On the back cover, the overlaid text disguises the poor quality faces, though we could probably have improved those with a bit more work.”
I do agree that the text does sort of obscure the picture to some degree but I think that the back cover came out better than the front cover because at least it didn’t decapitate everyone!
“Comparing that with some of your previous e-books, I notice one obvious difference: there is no spine. A printed book needs the title on the spine, so that you can find the book when it is vertical on a bookshelf. The Amazon instructions I found suggested the cover designer would create a spine for you, but it hasn’t done so for this one. Maybe you need to configure the spine in some way before it will put the printed version on sale.”
I found this is true a lot of my books because most of my books are novella length. This one was only about 31,000 words I think altogether. When I write these in my text documents I usually use Times new Roman size 9 font but when I publish them I always end up increasing it to 12 point and then when it’s reformatted to fit inside of the book the page numbers always get more. Like I think this one came out to be 104 pages which is relatively slight, so the spine is not very large so the text would not fit on it.
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OK, I measured the space where the image of the three women is. It’s a landscape space, approximately 500 x 290 pixels. The previous AI image was portrait size, 512 x 640 pixels. But onlyFakes also has “landscape” and “wide landscape” options. Wide landscape is closest to that shape.
So, here’s a a wide landscape generation, which has a bit of spare space top and bottom and should fit the space better if the cover generator uses the full width.
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“OK, I measured the space where the image of the three women is. It’s a landscape space, approximately 500 x 290 pixels. The previous AI image was portrait size, 512 x 640 pixels. But onlyFakes also has “landscape” and “wide landscape” options. Wide landscape is closest to that shape.
So, here’s a a wide landscape generation, which has a bit of spare space top and bottom and should fit the space better if the cover generator uses the full width.”
I have to say this picture looks a lot better than any of the other ones so far. So you’re saying that if I replaced the cover picture with this one it shouldn’t end up decapitating them? I have to admit I don’t understand any of this stuff at all, but thank you for all of the help that you have been giving me.
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“It will depend exactly how Amazon chooses to scale the image down to fit the space, but judging be the result from the previous image I think it stands a good chance of working.”
I went to change it for the e-book and it looks like it fits perfectly. The paperback is still in review and unfortunately every time you change things or update things they have to go through the review process again. So I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow most likely when the paperback is hopefully no longer in review so that I can change the paperback as well. Thank you again for all of your help though, I will let you know if everything goes through okay.
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I ultimately couldn’t figure out how to resize the back image so I just sort of chose a new cover just using the three women as I thought that that was better. So hopefully now those changes will be sufficient that hopefully the paperback will be available tomorrow but in the meantime it seems like the Kindle version still works fine, and I think like 95% of my book sales are from the Kindle, probably a lot of people don’t want to have a weird book like that sitting in their house! The irony is that I myself do not really read e-books, I’m one of those old-fashioned people who only reads hardcopy books.
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I am glad to say by changing the cover I was able to get the paper back to finally work, I just sort of ditched the back cover altogether and just had sort of the wraparound cover because at least that doesn’t decapitate the heroines of my novella! Thanks again for all the help.
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I am wondering what everybody thinks is the best AI image creators for creating naked images? I found this new one recently called https://www.seaart.ai/and although I explicitly told it to make the characters naked they usually end up just making them partially naked. I think that the best AI image Creator I have found so far is Meta AI on Facebook but it doesn’t create any kind of images that would have nudity.
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Here’s what I got trying GetImg.A A blushing naked man on a college campus looking embarrassed trying to cover up his genitals with his hands surrounded by dressed women all laughing at him and snapping pictures with their phones. This one was pretty good except his genitals lol. I also did one of a woman hiding naked behind a tree but it needs refinement. This one allows 200 credits per day right?
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I’ve heard that most, if not all, image generator AIs block male genitalia.
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If there’s one thing that AI is good at, it is completely misunderstanding the prompt.
Prompt:
(A man, a woman and a tree). (The woman is fully naked woman and hiding behind a tree:1.2). (The man is fully clothed and walks towards the tree:1.4). (The woman waves coyly towards him:1.3)
Negative Prompt: man naked
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“I’ve heard that most, if not all, image generator AIs block male genitalia.”
I had not realized that but am finding it true. Wonder why the double standard?
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“I suspect it’s more of a technical issue as most human control of these systems is applied at the text input stage, but I don’t know for sure.”
I’ve noticed a lot of the prompts where I say a naked woman it keeps her underwear on. Maybe if I used the word completely naked instead? Here are a few examples of results I got saying explicitly a NAKED woman.
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Ed: “where I say a naked woman it keeps her underwear on”
I suspect we can blame sloppy and sensational journalists for that.
AI takes most of its input from scouring web pages, including newspaper sites which often prefer sensational headlines to truth.
So, AI will see many images of topless women where headlines have misdescribed her as naked. It will also see images of men and women who, although when photographed were truly naked, have subsequently had their genitals pixelated or obscured in other ways because newspapers and web sites do not properly distinguish between nudity and pornography.
It would be a mammoth task, but unless somebody manually eliminates all part-clothed and pixellated images from the training data before letting AI see it, it’s understandable that AI is going to misunderstand words like naked and will draw unrealistic genitals
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Even adding completely doesn’t get her naked as seen in this example with the prompt “A woman running completely naked down Times Square on New Years as the ball drops as crowds cheer and shoot confetti.” What terms have you used where you get the full naked result? I feel like I am missing something here.
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I never use the word naked on it’s own. I say things like:
completelynaked
confidentnaked
It seems to work better.
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“I never use the word naked on it’s own. I say things like:
completelynaked
confidentnaked
It seems to work better.”
Even when I use terms like fully or completely it still usually gives me underpants. Do they have to be one word like that completelynaked as opposed to completely naked?
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I think a text filter changes the word “naked” to something else. The LLM copes easily with missed spaces but the filter is fooled. I’ve used that technique to get nudity out of several generators that block all nudity. I know some generators use and AI to assess the resulting image to look for banned content but GetImg doesn’t (yet!).
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“I think a text filter changes the word “naked” to something else. The LLM copes easily with missed spaces but the filter is fooled. I’ve used that technique to get nudity out of several generators that block all nudity. I know some generators use and AI to assess the resulting image to look for banned content but GetImg doesn’t (yet!).”
Do you think it might make a difference if I use the word nude instead of naked? What specific prompt did you use to get that last picture you made with the naked woman and the men in the suits?
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Here’s the prompt:
Photorealistic happy buxom woman (with bare feet) demonstrating her extreme body confidentnudism standing in a busy crowded office surrounded by fully clothed men in suits
The “bare feet” was to ensure a head-to-toe photo rather than stopping at the waist. I’ve just tried the same prompt and both photos came out with a woman naked but wearing an open suit jacket.
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“Here’s the prompt:
Photorealistic happy buxom woman (with bare feet) demonstrating her extreme body confidentnudism standing in a busy crowded office surrounded by fully clothed men in suits
The “bare feet” was to ensure a head-to-toe photo rather than stopping at the waist. I’ve just tried the same prompt and both photos came out with a woman naked but wearing an open suit jacket.”
I think it sounds like if you got a totally different result with a same prompt it seems like whether there actually going to be naked is just a matter of random chance then? Using the word photorealistic does seem to make the photo more realistic though.
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“With that prompt, I get nudity almost all the time. Every so often bikini bottoms appear but it’s unusual.”
I thank you for sharing that with me, it did make a difference as I only tried one picture so far but it did come out with visible breasts. It’s amazing how one single term like that can make such a difference but apparently it does. Now I just have to try and restrain myself so I don’t use up all of my credits right away, and also so that I will get back to writing my stories because being able to illustrate them is great but if it takes away from me actually writing the stories there will be nothing to illustrate! Seriously these AI things are extremely addictive because I’ve written thousands of stories and I always wish that I could illustrate them in between all of these different AI options you really can pretty much do anything, the sky really is the limit. And it also encourages me to practice my descriptive skills as a writer because the better your description is the more likely it is to give you what you were hoping for.
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With this one I gave the prompt Two Photorealistic nude Asian women staring at each other in a karate stance and for the most part they are nude but it gave them karate belts lol. Not clear which color belt it was supposed to be, yellow or green?
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And this one I gave it the prompt “A bunch of Photorealistic nude Asian women parading through the streets of New York City surrounded by tons of kittens around their feet and holding up rainbow banners” and they put them in underwear again. And yes as you can see I like Asian women and cats a lot lol.
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@ptHarry
“If there’s one thing that AI is good at, it is completely misunderstanding the prompt.
Prompt:
(A man, a woman and a tree). (The woman is fully naked woman and hiding behind a tree:1.2). (The man is fully clothed and walks towards the tree:1.4). (The woman waves coyly towards him:1.3)
Negative Prompt: man naked
Style: Realistic photo
Engine: Realistic HD 2″I had a similar issue when I tried making a similar one with the prompt “A naked woman hiding behind a tree waving coyly to a shocked man coming across her.” This one was an okay one because technically she’s naked but she was actually inside of the tree. My first effort I used the prompt “A blushing naked woman hiding behind trees and bushes to conceal herself from a smiling fully dressed man who is approaching.” This one was off the mark as it just had a man in a suit approaching another man in a bikini with no woman to be seen. So I do think that it seems to have trouble with certain prompts more than others. Great minds think alike but get the same bad results. I do feel that one positive thing though is that as a writer this is making me put more effort into my descriptive skills if I want to try and get what I want but even when I described in really elaborate detail I think that that just confuses it more.
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Here’s what I got with the prompt “photorealistic nude Asian woman naked in the forest thinking that she is alone but then is shocked when a fully dressed man comes across her.” The man is nowhere to be seen but otherwise this one is pretty nice, as she is clearly naked and looks pretty embarrassed. It was better than the first two at any rate!
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With this one I made my description very detailed “photorealistic nude woman standing naked in an elevator with a bunch of well dressed men and she is staring down at her feet blushing and looking awkward, uncomfortable and embarrassed and putting her one hand between her legs and the other arm across her breasts trying to conceal herself.” Overall pretty good but still wearing underwear. Is there any known way to avoid that? Like what if I added no clothing whatsoever?
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Nudity, not so much of a problem but the men are missing and the’s not covering her breasts:
photorealistic nakednude woman standing naked in an elevator with a bunch of well dressed men and she is staring down at her feet blushing and looking awkward, uncomfortable and embarrassed and putting her one hand between her legs and the other arm across her breasts trying to conceal herself.
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So much of this is random:
photorealistic shynude woman standing naked in an elevator with a bunch of well dressed men and she is staring down at her feet blushing and looking awkward, uncomfortable and embarrassed and putting her one hand between her legs and the other arm across her breasts trying to conceal herself.
At least we gained one man in a suit, but this time no covering at all from the woman.
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This is where OnlyFakes can be useful.
Not initially, because if I give it your exact prompt, it will almost certainly generate something that is nothing like what you are asking for.
But if I upload a screenshot of your image to use as a reference and give it the same prompt:
- on its default setting, she comes out completely naked — but she isn’t looking down at her feet, isn’t covering anything and she looks as if she is enjoying it rather than being awkward or embarrassed
- reducing the creativity setting to low preserves a bit more of your original — she is looking down at her feet, trying to cover the requested bits (but not actually succeeding), is looking down on her feet and no longer enjoying it. But she now has transparent panties
- reducing the creativity to the absolute lowest setting gives almost exactly the same as the your original.
Note these steps are “right to left” in the described sequence because that’s the order it appears in the library and it lets me upload all three as a single screenshot.
So what’s the point. We seem not to have achieved anything yet.
But that’s not the end of the story. I just need to split it over a second reply to avoid the forum losing the post altogether.
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Here’s the opposite situation which of all of these I think came out the closest to what I wanted “photorealistic nude man standing naked in an elevator with his briefcase covering his crotch with a bunch of well dressed women in business suits standing around him smiling and smirking and laughing.”
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This one I gave the prompt “photorealistic image of a naked man and a naked woman on stage with no clothing whatsoever in front of a crowd of people who are clapping and laughing and cheering.” But still underwear….
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Prompt was “photorealistic nude woman casually smoking a cigarette and laughing with her naked ass facing the audience on a stage as a bunch of 1940s era American World War II soldiers whistle and cheer.” I think this one came out good cause of the detail where I specified “her naked ass” and it gave me that!
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I have noticed this issue as well, often you will say that there are other people around but those people will be excluded altogether. I find I have used this for public figures as well for nonsexual purposes but often it just blatantly ignores an entire part of what you requested. I have found saying the image of seems to be getting me better results and if you have repetition of the word naked nude etc. it seems like it’s a little bit more likely to give you what you want.
Here are some recent ones that I have used along with the prompt I have used to get it.
“photorealistic image of a naked woman sitting on a toilet in a public restroom texting on her phone as another woman opens the stall door humiliating her.”
“Photorealistic image of a naked woman hiding just out of the view of a bunch of dressed men and she is looking awkward”
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“Photorealistic nude Asian woman holding a cat in front of her naked body as she is beamed up by a UFO as gray aliens float around in the beam on both sides of her”
“photorealistic naked Asian woman wearing absolutely nothing except a Sherlock Holmes hat and holding a large magnifying glass as cats rub up against her leg”
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“photorealistic image of a naked woman and a naked man opening the door to their house only for people to jump out yelling in a surprise party.”
Once again, underpants or bikinis!
“photorealistic image of a naked nude woman wearing nothing but a blindfold as she walks in front of a large audience of cheering people as she tries taking the blindfold off and begins screaming and covering her naked body with her hands”
Nice but still not totally nude…
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“photorealistic embarrassednude woman only one naked (and barefoot) at a party of dancing fully-clothed people. She is shy and embarrassed.”
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“photorealistic embarrassednude woman and man, only ones naked (and barefoot) at a party of dancing fully-clothed people. They are shy and embarrassed. The clothed people are laughing at them.”
Not too bad but the wrong people are laughing and there are a few image glitches.
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“photorealistic image of a completelynaked nudist nude woman in a blindfold as she walks in front of a large audience of cheering people as she tries taking the blindfold off and begins screaming and covering her naked body with her hands”
She’s naked and screaming but NOT trying to remove the blindfold. Closest I’ve had yet.
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“Is the other lady carrying the cubicle door and peering around it?”
I mean I thought it looked like she was just opening the door but I suppose if you look at it carefully I guess it does kind of look like she’s actually carrying the door. Once again I guess you have to be extremely extremely specific and yet the more specific you are the more likely it is to get confused I think and not give you exactly what you want.
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“photorealistic image of a naked nude woman being tickled by a fully dressed woman and laughing hysterically”
“photorealistic image of a naked nude woman stuck outdoors blushing and trying to hide her nudity behind various trees and bushes”
These came out fully naked, success!
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“I find mentioning the feet tends to produce head-to-toe pictures.”
You are right I tried the prompt “photorealistic image of a naked woman standing around at a party full of well dressed people and she is looking at her bare feet and looking incredibly embarrassed and blushing” and success, full nudity!
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Good one!
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Hit and a miss with “photorealistic image of a naked male slave in ancient Rome looking down at his bare feet looking humiliated as a bunch of ancient Roman women dressed in togas point at him and laugh”
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Another one I got good results with “King Arthur receiving the Excalibur sword from a naked lady of the lake but both are smirking cause Arthur is grabbing the sword which looks like a penis and balls and is pointing towards the lady in the lake’s face.” I used https://www.seaart.ai/ for this one.
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Not bad “photorealistic image of a naked man and naked woman standing side by side looking awkward, embarrassed and blushing and looking at each other and trying to hide their nudity with strategically placed objects.”
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photorealistic image of a naked man and naked woman holding hands and looking coyly at each other with their genitals just barely hidden by a bush. I should have probably said facing forward, but nice asses!
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photorealistic image of a woman who is completely naked from head to toe holding up a microphone and interviewing a fully dressed man and looking embarrassed doing so but laughing about it regardless. Not perfect but still pretty good.
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photorealistic image of a woman who is completely naked from head to toe jogging in place smiling as a man stands there staring at her with his eyes bugging out of his head in shock at seeing a naked woman like that. Nice but underwear and an extra leg lol.
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photorealistic image of a group of people bidding at an auction on a naked man and a naked woman on a stage as they look utterly humiliated as they look down at their bare feet. It seems hard to get them to not wear underwear!
photorealistic image of a woman slipping out of her clothes and dropping them at her feet as a bunch of men look on with big wide smiles as she blushes and looks away. Nice looks on the faces!
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A naked female ballerina performing on stage with other ballerinas who are smirking cause they get to stay dressed as a dictator looks on. This one gave me a good story idea.
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I thought I would put this question out here but has anybody noticed that the AI at getimg.AI seems like it’s been getting more restrictive with their nudity content lately as I have been getting a lot of messages lately saying that it was a content restriction despite the fact that I had made several pictures like that before. I sent a message to help and they didn’t seem to be very helpful so I am wondering if anybody else has been having that problem?
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“I think the problem is most of these generative AI sites are based in the US and the US is weirdly prudish. I think they never wanted nudity, they’ve just got better at blocking it.”
I imagine once Project 2025 goes through the US will be banned from all such sites including ones like this one.
According to their content restrictions: Explicit Sexual Content: Close-up images focusing on intimate parts of the human body intended to elicit a sexual response are not allowed. This includes but is not limited to depictions of genitalia, sexual activities, or any content that could be considered pornographic.
So it doesn’t forbid nudity but whether nudity is sexually explicit is pretty vague IMO. I feel like that is in the mind of the beholder. It still makes nude pictures but seems to be getting more nitpicky. Plenty of the pictures in this thread made there include genitalia.
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Ha I downloaded stable diffusion ages ago forgot all about it. I just downloaded the epic realism model and asked for a person naked in the woods blindfolded.
could have some fun with this.
the joy of having your own au generator is you don’t have any restrictions other than your own pcs specsMartin likes this
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That would be good for a Naked Experiment day.
Though you need to decide whether the participants try to match the prompt or the result.
Example:
A man and a woman meeting first time on a naked experiment day have undressed each other in a small room. They stand, with their clothes on the floor beside them, watched by two seated clothed men and two clothed women
That’s not quite what it generated:
She hasn’t taken his clothes off and they look more like professional photo models than strangers getting naked together for the first time.
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They were originally standing back to back:
But a slight change in the prompt caused him to turn round and her head to face the wrong way, for no apparent reason.
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Normally when you generate an image it’s gets a seed number. If you like the original image you can copy that seed and force the so to use that original seed image for all its future work with the prompts. -1 seed is random seed
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Just google stable diffusion download. You’ll need to get python installed and go though a bit of a set up but plenary of guides online then you can download tonnes of models that are trained to do stuff civitai.com has thousands of models trained. Huggingface too
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Takes about 25 minutes I think to set up. Might be easier now I did it a while back. Then you can choose the models you want to use for different types of images. I think one of the models I downloaded last night was about 6gb. I have 10 different models for different things but there are thousands. If you can get by using online then probably easier.
Does putting the message on the sites make it look like are trying to hard. I think people going to those sites will know what they are showing.
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“What is Project 2025? I’ve never heard of that.”
Is basically the political rights plan book in America for basically turning America into something like a fascist theocracy which would among other things concentrate pretty much all the power in the president and enforce conservative sexual beliefs among which a total ban on all forms of pornography, incredibly hypocritical since the person who’s going to implement it has been convicted of paying hush money to a porn star. It’s something very bad and I think that in the next couple of months America’s knocking to be much of a free society anymore and I’m wondering if websites like this will be banned to say nothing of these AI image creators. Just very very bad stuff in general which makes me wish I was more adaptable because I would just totally leave the country.
“Ha I downloaded stable diffusion ages ago forgot all about it. I just downloaded the epic realism model and asked for a person naked in the woods blindfolded.
could have some fun with this.
the joy of having your own au generator is you don’t have any restrictions other than your own pcs specs”I think that the results you got were pretty good but again I am not really good with anything overly complex when it comes to computers I like these AI image generators because all I have to do is describe something and then it will give me hopefully something approximating what I wanted. It would be better to have one just on your own computer like that but again I don’t want to download these complex programs especially if am not going to be able to figure out how to use them. For me I really stuck with computers and technology so it has to be something like really simple or I will probably just get frustrated and give up on it. But again I do like the result that you got with that picture.
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Let me try again.
I forgot to mention but I did ask the help people from the get image AI place and this is the response they sent me: The thing is, our algorithm is still being improved, so it may occasionally make mistakes. But the general rules are listed here. We have restricted a bit more NSFW categories resently.
@Ed
“With the huge amount of AI-generated nudity online, I’m beginning to wonder if I should state on AMOC and SGC that none of the content there is generated, it’s all real.”I honestly think that most people can tell the difference between AI generated art and actual real pictures of naked people, the AI can make it fairly realistic yes, but generally speaking you can easily tell that it was computer-animated, at least all the ones I have seen anyway. I think even photorealistic pictures while they can be very real looking are still obviously animated and not real photographs.
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I tried using https://huggingface.co/ and it seems to give good naked pictures.
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