3rd May 2020 at 12:35 am #4804
Hello everyone, first official topic, so I hope this goes well.
I’m a Master’s student, minoring in psychology and I’m actually doing a personal project on the psychology of nudity (actually how I found this community). To make a long story short, I’m trying to write a survey/personality quiz about different aspects of nude life. What is common and accepted? What is less common/accepted and why? Percentage of people with naked things on their bucket list? How would people hypothetically react when thrown into different nudity filled situations? For example, does herd mentality outweigh sense of shame?
I can post some of the questions I have so far, but I was wondering if anyone had any good ideas for questions to ask or naked situations to ask about?
I already have one about walking into class late and everyone is naked during the lecture, do you join? Kinda like the opposite of that naked in school dream
3rd May 2020 at 3:22 pm #4810
Hi Richard. Welcome to the community (if I haven’t said that already) (but welcome again if I have). I’ll have a think and respond again but for now, I see you’re asking about three different sets of ideas:
- What is common and accepted? What is less common/accepted and why? – My first thought is to wonder what you mean by “accepted”. Who is doing the accepting? What is the context for their acceptance? Is naked fundraising or art or protest inherently more acceptable than flashing? Where do dares fit in?
- Percentage of people with naked things on their bucket list?
- How would people hypothetically react when thrown into different nudity filled situations? – That’s the theme of the naked class example.
These seem to be in increasing order of hypotheticalness (if that’s a word) but maybe all could be addressed by asking people what naked experiences are on their bucket list and what would stop them achieving them. The purely hypothetical one (number 3) is more difficult though. Does your project stray into the psychology of dreams and/or fantasy? I suppose you could ask about different bucket lists – a potentially real one (for me, a nude beach), a feasible but unlikely one (for me, taking part in a naked performance in a small theatre), and a pure fantasy one (for me, my imagination isn’t cooperating at the moment!). That might be an interesting way forward. You could then ask people to comment on why they’ve put different things on different bucket lists.
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4th May 2020 at 12:40 am #4816
Happy to help if you want to post your actual questions.
I always find it interesting that, I’m nude performance, it tends to be others who have the issues with nudity rather than me if I’m nude.
great comment made at a production of Hair – The Musical in London springs to mind. It was a clothing optional performance in as much as the audience could choose to be naked whilst the performance continued as normal. I was in the audience and totally naked. As was the vast majority of the audience. So much so that one of the performers, doing a normally included ad lib with audience members, said to the one woman in the audience who was still wearing clothing “did you not get the memo, love?”.
6th May 2020 at 12:10 pm #4827
I still think your naked bucket list idea has potential @RRos338
Three bucket lists. Three things on each list in increasing order of scariness. List 1 is things you think you’re very likely to achieve, list 2 = possible, list 3 = very unlikely. Then for each of the nine items, explain why it’s on that particular list and either describe what happened when you achieved it and how challenging it turned out to be, or talk about the barriers that could make it hard to achieve.
I’m trying to drag back into my mind the surveys and things I did long ago. Whatever you decide to do, you’ll need advice on how to ask the questions and how to work out what the answers mean, otherwise you won’t have any useful conclusions. You say it’s a private project but hopefully your course tutors can advise you.
How’s it going so far?
6th May 2020 at 1:59 pm #4828
Bucket lists are a good idea although I never know what to put on mine! I certainly have a “Bucket List for Acting” but I’m not quite sure all that is on it – just know I have some targets.
So limiting to 3 items could be good in each of the categories. Although I suspect I’d prefer to be given options and asked to rank them “absolutely / possible / no way”. I suspect that ties in with Ed’s experiments – the ability to hand control to someone else to determine what you do / are asked to do – or just being submissive with it. It’s also the reason why the weekly challenges was so pleasurable
6th May 2020 at 10:38 pm #4831
As well as “absolutely / possible / no way”, the reasons would be interesting, especially if @RRos338 wants to understand people’s attitudes to getting naked.
The control angle is interesting too. Richard didn’t mention that dimension at all. Being told to stand outside and strip completely naked is a lot different from sneaking out when nobody is looking, which is different again from being restrained and stripped. It could just be a case of putting being stripped / ordered to strip on your bucket list or maybe that’s another set of questions – would you do X (a) voluntarily, (b) if ordered to, (c) if forced to.
We could do with hearing from Richard again really.
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7th May 2020 at 7:07 am #4832
@Charlieb makes a good point. Perhaps there is a need first to confirm what has been done already by the individual subject.
driven naked with clothed passenger through London – done
being driven by clothed driver whilst naked – yet to be done by me but easy to cover up when i realise I am being watched so low impact item
Being driven by a clothed driver whilst naked but blindfolded and with hands cuffed to headrest or behind seat – yet to be done by me and no chance of covering up at any time so high impact item
the third option would make me nervous and would take more to complete… but I’d do it I think (the second one is easier in my head, and the first has been done!)
so there is also the mental challenge as well as the physical challenge and that will be different for different people given their base line. I imagine there will be those who haven’t done the first who will already be thinking “brave guy, I couldn’t do that!”
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7th May 2020 at 11:56 am #4834
Even now I’m getting on a bit, being tied naked and exposed is a massive buzz, at least until it gets boring when “the moment passes”. Even if it’s easy to escape, just making it difficult for you to cover yourself up quickly can add to the fun.
For Richard’s survey/personality quiz about different aspects of nude life, getting people’s reactions to being naked in different situations would be interesting. He’d probably want to keep memories of real situations separate from speculation about possible future ones. Turning that round a bit, he could look at why people choose to be dressed in various situations. Why do we bother with swimming costumes at the beach? Why in a swimming pool (and the differences between those situations might be worth exploring)? Why do we wear gym kit? Why wear anything when cycling (and can therefore get away quickly if necessary)? These days, why do we dress for skype meetings? That discussion might give rise to a useful set of factors – hygiene, health and safety, accusations of being a sexual predator, warmth, wanting to keep some things private, wanting to control your appearance etc etc.
I’ve now set myself off thinking about cycling naked. I’d need to find somewhere out-of-the-way to get changed but if I kept up a reasonable pace and avoided traffic lights, I doubt if anyone would recognise me or even get much chance to study my physical defects. Hmmm… Interesting…
8th May 2020 at 3:51 am #4835
Oh wow! Thank you so much for the help!
Sorry, I’m not on here every day, so I missed these, but I really like some of these ideas. Unfortunately, I may have to do more than one to fit all of these ideas in, but that’s not something I’m opposed to. I think a bucket list one might actually be smarter to start out with than purely hypothetical after reading through what you guys have been saying. I didn’t mention the control idea because that wasn’t even something that occurred to me, but I like it.
At this point, I’m thinking of going with what you guys have been saying, making three categories of bucket list: have done or would be very willing to do, possible, and unlikely. Perhaps having everyone write 3 ideas for each, then do a second round of ranking all of the ideas from everyone. This might allow me to focus on ones that are psychologically relevant, as well as ideas people might not have thought of, like the same idea, switching control. I could also make a second part of that second test choosing different options changing slightly for situations, both for control and detail. Perhaps even throw in some of the hypothetical situations that I know the psychological reasoning behind to gather more data.
Honestly, not sure I would talk to a course tutor about this unless I found one that was a bit more comfortable about this topic, as most of my professors are very uptight. I am considering going to a Gender Studies Professor I know though at the beginning of next term.
Again, thank you so much for the great welcome into the community and abundant help!
8th May 2020 at 6:39 am #4836
Sounds good. But also sounds like you need to clarify your thoughts on what you do want and then ask us. Maybe best to ask directly by message? And perhaps just ask for three items in each list based on our personal view, then create the total list and send that back round for comment / ranking.
here’s hoping it’s a success!
8th May 2020 at 4:31 pm #4840
Yes, if you’re using this site as one of the places you do your survey, you’ll probably need to do the first phase (collecting ideas) by message and then the second phase more publicly.
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9th May 2020 at 10:53 pm #4891
Thanks for the well wishes! Admittedly, I was a bit skeptical of conducting the survey here, fearing such an open attitude towards nudity might skew the results, but I’m beginning to think that could be really interesting to compare. Not to mention that I might not get good results from classmates/friends or permission to do an anonymous survey.
If anyone is willing or wants to help me with this, please send me a friend request or reply here and I’ll send it out as soon as I finish it. Might be a few days cause exams suck, but shouldn’t be too long. Thank you in advance!
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10th May 2020 at 9:47 pm #4906
Happy to help, though – as you say – this community is probably unusual! It’s also very small at the moment. Hopefully you’ll get good results from classmates/friends – there’s only one way to find out! There must be studies done on the psychology of naked protest (like the PPE one) so you wouldn’t be coming from a completely weird planet.
Let me know if you want me to participate.
11th May 2020 at 4:55 pm #4909
In fact, come to think of it, things like the PPE naked doctors protest could give you a starting point with a wider audience. You could show them newspaper reports about that and maybe also World Naked Bike Ride and of course naked charity calendars. That sounds like a gentler introduction than asking a complete stranger whether getting their kit off is on their bucket list.
13th May 2020 at 11:41 am #4911
Thinking of buckets reminds me of the ice bucket challenge and quite a few people doing it wearing as little as possible. Was that part of the challenge? The phsychology of exhibitionism must be interesting. Maybe people saw it as an excuse to show more of themselves than usual. Maybe they saw it as a way of drawing more attention to the cause they were supporting. (I don’t remember what the cause was – epilepsy perhaps???)
I found a good video but it wouldn’t embed here. Here are some stills from it. She runs back into the house afterwards and it’s definitely a family event. I wonder how much family attitudes to nudity, or at least toplessness, influence people’s nudity personality.
19th May 2020 at 1:46 am #4936
Admittedly, the psychology of exhibitionism vs nudism was something that I considered for this personal project, but I decided that simple nudity and people’s feelings thereof might allow for a wider subject grouping. Especially if I do it on naked bucket lists, cause everyone has at least one naked item on their bucket list.
In response to your idea about a gentler introduction, I was planing on having this mainly being people from this site who were willing to participate, or friends who have already expressed a desire to participate. While that is a fairly small group, that might be okay for a personal project for now. If I expand this any wider later on, I will definitely heed that advice.
Additionally, and let me know if this isn’t allowed to say, but after talking with you guys here for such a short time, so openly and casually about nudity, I’m seriously considering trying it out myself, in small increments. I’m thinking that I might celebrate some event like getting an A on an exam or successfully launching this survey with checking a small item off my own naked bucket list, both to keep me honest with a trigger and for the slight buzz of anticipation. Thank you guys for that opportunity, and for this community.
P.S. Let me know if you have any good ideas for someone’s first foray into nudity. I’m thinking something like sleeping naked or writing 3 responses to this forum while naked or even going a bit bigger and posting a naked pic to this site.
19th May 2020 at 7:14 am #4937
Sounds like there has been an effect on you personally, which is interesting in itself.
certainly willing to participate in your experiment / report by providing bucket list examples or to be a subject in whether those items on your own bucket list are achievable by another and therefore achievable by yourself.
For your own personal exploration, I suggest you collect data first and then create a sampled bucket list and see if you can achieve any on that. The big issue behind your idea is that what you regard as being an introduction may already be a normal activity for others. Alternatively, that you seek suggestions privately as that will allow you to choose a starting activity privately and without pressure of public awareness. Of course I remain happy to be contacted privately and directly if you wish (I’m UK).
But it does sound like you have a personal project to consider that is away from your original, university, project so that will need balancing as well. Or maybe your tutor is more open-minded than you might think, and will encourage you to embrace a study project that you want to complete, rather than guiding you to a more mainstream, and perhaps less interesting to you, project.
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19th May 2020 at 2:28 pm #4938Susan
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Your survey idea sounds interesting. I don’t know the scope of the questions or where & how it might be used but…… I’d be interested to at least see it. I think I’d be willing to answer questions about myself and how I enjoy being nude and showing myself.
Please tell me more.
19th May 2020 at 6:30 pm #4939
Sleeping naked is a really good start. Depending on your living arrangements, you could eventually ramp it up slightly by opening the curtains or leaving the door slightly ajar or, especially at this time of year, going just outside very early in the morning when there’s nobody about. I was looking at an online dare forum once and there was a very simple introductory one which was to go into a clothes shop individual changing cubicle and strip completely naked. I tried it and I was surprised what a good feeling it was.
Posting a picture on this site is another good way to get started. We could even play “guess the body part” if you just post any part of your body that people don’t normally see!
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23rd May 2020 at 11:24 pm #4974
@rros338 “I already have one about walking into class late and everyone is naked during the lecture, do you join? Kinda like the opposite of that naked in school dream” – reminds me of this film. I won’t give away the punchline in case you haven’t seen it 🙂
24th May 2020 at 1:46 pm #4976
That scene from Point de Fuite used to be available in several versions on YouTube but it seems they’ve all been deleted now. There was a really low-quality copy on Vimeo but that’s gone too.
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This one might look a bit clearer…
31st May 2020 at 12:37 am #4993
@RRos338 said “I might celebrate some event like getting an A on an exam or successfully launching this survey with checking a small item off my own naked bucket list” and then at some point we got onto talking about control, for example the impact of being stripped or being told to strip. The idea of making yourself take something off when an event happens sounds like a good way of experimenting with control. It’s a bit like a car journey strip game where you take something off whenever a car with your chosen colour passes you. (Opt for brown if you’re shy. Has anyone seen a brown car recently?)
I wonder if one of the survey questions could be “which colour would you choose?” You could complicate the scenario by combining taking something off with getting a reward, so I might pick silver to potentially get a bigger reward but also take the risk of being naked fairly quickly. That might tell you something about peoples naked personalities.
A more domestic version of this could help someone at home get naked for the first time. Take something off whenever you hear an emergency vehicle siren or car horn or something perhaps??? (Or where we live, taking something off every time someone walks past the house would be a fairly safe way of remaining clothed for quite a while!)
There must be all sorts of psychology surrounding different people’s attitudes to playing strip games. The woman in this picture looks very nervous and is ready to cover up fairly quickly (unless the way her top is wrapped wound her arms is restraining her) but she’s still played along with the game.
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3rd June 2020 at 6:20 pm #5021
I really like the idea of being in control vs not, and the psychology of strip games, though I’ve not had an opportunity to try either. Admittedly, I did put the survey on the backburner just a little bit, both to wait and see if anyone else would be interested, but also to experiment on myself, much like the control experiment mentioned above. For those of you still interested though, don’t worry, I haven’t forgotten.
Granted, being in the US, I don’t have the opportunity for such a car ride, but hopefully posting a few pictures of myself to the appropriate forums after acing a test is enough of a lack of control to experiment with for now (as soon as I get the opportunity to). If someone else wants to let me know of a good trigger, or even just tell me when to strip, as mentioned above, I could try that out as well.
I both love and hate this community for so quickly making me second guess everything about my sense of shame, self-image, and feelings towards nudity. I was expecting it to be a bit harder for me to decide to actually try to be a nudist, but maybe that’s the boredom and isolation of quarantine.
3rd June 2020 at 8:21 pm #5022
Control is a fascinating subject when it comes to nudity. I’ve known many, many people over the years who would never experiment with nudity of their own accord but, if ordered to, will get naked. It seems that a lot of people follow the line of simply being naked in front of other people (streaking/hiking/skinny dipping etc.) makes them weird or a pervert. If someone else exerts authority over them it gives them a licence to get naked without it being their responsibility.
I believe this is why charity calendars and WNBR and other events are so popular. People can get naked in front of others without worrying about being seen to be a weirdo or a pervert.
Then there are people who don’t really have any interest in nudity itself, but crave the humiliation of being naked against their will.
As far as I know, at least 1 in 4 people like to be seen naked by others, but only a fraction of those will admit it and most people are far too worried by their image, and possibly criminal record, to explore their interest.
5th June 2020 at 6:11 pm #5030
Thinking of triggers, how about rolling a pair of dice every time you make yourself a drink. If you roll a double, you have to drink it naked? Thinking of posting photos of yourself, a simple start could be to post a picture of some part of your body and ask people to guess which part it is. I don’t know how to make such a photo visually attractive though!! I’m also not sure how you would know the picture is original. Maybe you could ask people to nominate something to include in the photo, but it would have to be something common like a teabag or something.
5th June 2020 at 6:17 pm #5032
And thinking of unattractive body parts, another piece of naked psychology could be about what people like and dislike about their own naked bodies. There used to be a TV programme in the UK called How to Look Good Naked which was about helping people feel better about their bodies.
7th June 2020 at 7:18 pm #5044
I meant coffee by the way, but other drinks are available!
I guess this conversation is nearing its end. I, for one, could go on having random ideas and adding them here but that doesn’t solve the problem of how to actually undertake the research. We seem to have ideas about discovering what people secretly (or not) want to do and discovering what stops them doing it. Having inhibitions protects us in some contexts but restricts us in others. If we don’t push our limits, how do we find out what they are?
8th June 2020 at 2:53 am #5051
I think that is a perfect sentiment to have, and way of explaining it. I should hope to be at a point to continue the research soon, but have not had the time to. The next major step is to send out the surveys to everyone interested and go from there. I hope that is a sufficient way to undertake the research.
I do agree though that this topic has shifted from the original intention and I apologize for that. If anyone wants to continue to discuss experiments on a more personal than academic basis, like the picture game Prof Green mentioned or my own feelings and experiences in a newly nudist mindset, let me know and I can start a new topic for that (Assuming that’s alright with Ed).
If Prof Green or anyone else has any additional ideas for the survey or even anything related to that, we can of course continue this conversation, but if it seems like it’s nearing its end, private messages also would work.
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